Flying as of 6/30/2010

Discussion in 'Post Your Photos' started by TomT, Jul 6, 2010.

  1. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    No it starts at 4 mph and I get output at 6-7 mph at 10 mph it is at 50 watts. My wind meter has been at 0 mph for almost a month here. Even when the storms come thru I am at 0 mph here and 10 miles away it was gusting to 50 mph. Storm just went thru south of me and top wind was 12 mph here and was putting out 70 watts. But the trees do have all their leaves. Someday I will get the turbine up to the better wind. In the last 25 days I have only gotten 1kw wind. Solar is at 15 kw. Today is the second time this month I have gotten any wind here.
     
  2. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    Just started to get some wind again.
    PHEW.......Solar is at 20 KWH a month for the past 3 months.
    Wind at less than 1 KWH a month.
    What little wind we have had started coming only out of the SW right thru a tree.
     
    Last edited: Sep 27, 2019
  3. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    New roof mount for the 600 watt PMA.
    The blades are TLG hub with steel extensions and Windy Nation 30 inch blades.
    This is all I have laying around so I will go with it for now.
    The steel for the top portion will be here in two weeks.
    NewMount.JPG MountEnd.JPG MountingHardware.JPG NewBlades.JPG
     
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  4. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    Here are the pictures of that 300 watt turbine.
    It has been running almost none stop from wind coming up the valley of the roof.
    Second picture is of the modification to the mounting system to anchor it to the roof.
    The roof drops down on the back half.
    300wattTurbine.jpg Rear Mount.jpg
    It tracks better than the other one and rotates alot easier.
     
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  5. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    So far so good.
    Just getting a little wind around here and so far a big improvement.
    Watts jump up and stay there.
    The wattage does not quickly fall off anymore.
    Voltage rises alot slower with wattage increase on the Grid Tie.
     
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  6. leamywind1

    leamywind1 WindyNation Engineer

    Hey Tom, You didi a really nice job on that second turbine.:)
     
  7. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    Thanks....I am now wondering if the noise reduction is because it is using two teflon washers for the yaw bearing and / or the new design of this turbine from Effsun. It does not make any noise like the other one. Basically I can not hear it at all. I also used a different plate for now for the nose cone. No 10 lb weight this time.
     
  8. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    I am still working out how my two pmas will work together with grid ties.
    Had just one gust all day and it took the 10.8-22 volt GTI and ran right past 30 volts but the 22-60 volt GTI did not pick up the rest.
    I also did not go over 40 volts or the dump would have kicked in.
    I have a red indicator light on it.
    So I would know if it dumped.
    Waiting again to see what happens next time.:(
     
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  9. bluejay

    bluejay WindyNation Engineer

    35 volts and it will pop..It will happen to fast for the 22 to lock on before its 2 late.So your batteries need to be bigger to stop the voltage climb in fast gusts if they are just a dummy load and cap...The smaller the agm battery the less load voltage cap you have..welcome to multiple turbines.
     
  10. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    Well it took two wind generators but I now seem to have a good match for the SunG 10.8-30 volt 500 watt wind GTI.
    (UPDATE) Just remember GRID TIES are current hungry.
    I have alot less over voltages and it holds to a wattage without dropping till the wind does.
    No more spin up and quick slow downs.:D
     
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  11. leamywind1

    leamywind1 WindyNation Engineer

    Thanks Tom,
    Yes, running them (2 turbines rather then one) in paralle with one or two GT's will keep the over volts down.
    I have found it is a give and take. Doing it that way you loose your power in the mid range winds but gain more constant low wind watts. In higher winds you can get all the power. This is why i use a 250 and a 1kw. In my situation(6-20mph winds) i want to get to 22v in about 15mph winds runnig through the 250 and letting the 1kw do the rest as well as running the turbines at a higher volatge. The problem is if you run 2 turbines into a 250 and a 22-60 GTI the two turbines keep a better steady voltge and the 250 or a 500 (10-30v) does not want to let it go in mid range winds. I seen 220 watts out of the 250 doing it this way and i was affraid i was going to fry it due to the amps going in. So i am back to ea turbine on it's own system trying to get through the 250 as soon as i can. The 250 gives me the low wind speed watts so i does well with one turbine . For higher wind area i do recomend just using 22-60v inverters only.

    I have also addd caps to each rectifier. They seem to work pretty well. Letting the turbines spin just a little longer for an easier start up for the next gust as well as smoothing out the volatges. Again for my site i want to get through my 250 GTI to get to 22v or more ASAP. rectifiyer with blocking diode.jpg
     
  12. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    Being my average winds are never higher than 15-20 mph. I have seen that the 22-60 volt GTI does not give me as much watts as the 10.8-30 volt GTI. Also could be from the 5 blades holding it back in higher winds. But since that is not all the time just for a few seconds at a time it is not worth it. But it is good as a team to get some of the watts and keep the voltage level down. Even with the battery tie it does not get to 24 + volts very often. From what I have been seeing the GTIs seem to be more interested in keeping current down than voltage. So the best advise I can give is see what you are getting in average winds. Buy a GTI for that wattage and make sure you have over voltage protection. If you get big short bursts of wind.
     
  13. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    Ok power reports for 2011 !!! I will add as I get more info.

    Feb22-Mar23 WN PMA and 240w solar in my windows. 9.96 KWH
    Mar24-April22 WN PMA and 240w solar in my windows. 10.32 KWH Solar moved outside April 12,2011
    April23-May22 WN500 and 240w solar on roof. Wind 5.43 KWH Solar 14.16 KWH
    May23-June21 Wind 1 KWH Solar 20 KWH
    June22-July21 Wind 1.64 KWH Solar 18.42 KWH
    July22-Aug21 Wind 1.46 KWH Solar 18.99 KWH
    Aug22-Sept21 Wind 1.64 KWH Solar 16.21 KWH
    Sept22-Oct21 Wind 2.03 KWH Solar 10.71 KWH
    Effsun 300w PMA added Oct23 and all leaves off trees by Nov3.
    Oct22-Nov20 WN500 and Eff 300w 240w solar Wind 8.28 KWH Solar 10.73 KWH
    Removed WN500 and put up the Effsun 600 Dec 12,2011
    Nov21-Dec20 Eff 600 Eff 300 240w Solar Wind 9.04 KWH Solar 5.17 KWH
    Dec21-Jan19 Eff 600 Eff 300 240w Solar Wind 11.50 KWH Solar 4.96 KWH
    Dropped 600 watt to roof line.
    2012******
    Jan20-Feb18 Eff 600 Eff 300 240w Solar Wind 9.61 KWH Solar 7.79 KWH
    Feb19-Mar19 Eff 600 Eff 300 240w Solar Wind 11.76 KWH Solar 10.66 KWH
    Removed and Sold 600 watt put 500 watt back up and changed blades to WN 5 blade.
    Mar20-Apr18 WN500 Eff300 240w Solar Wind 5.71 KWH Solar 16.46 KWH
    April 28 Trees have full leaves.
    Apr19-May18 WN500 Eff 300 240w Solar Wind 3.21 KWH Solar 17.79 KWH
    Jun 7,2012 UPDATE 580 watts of solar added to my roof and up and running. Hooked up at 2PM.
    May19-June17 WN500 Eff 300 820 watts Solar Wind 2.37 KWH Solar 43.58 KWH
    June18-July17 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 1.39 KWH Solar 86.37 KWH
    July18-Aug16 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 1.99 KWH Solar 77.84 KWH
    Aug17-Sept15 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 1.72 KWH Solar 78.50 KWH
    Leaves started falling off trees Oct2 as of 15th about 30 percent have fallen and the winds are also returning now. Put nose cone on other turbine on the 5th.
    Sept16-Oct15 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind3.13 KWH Solar 52.33 KWH
    Oct16-Nov14 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 6.49 KWH Solar 31.45 KWH
    Nov15-Dec14 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 5.79 KWH Solar 37.14 KWH
    Dec15-Jan13 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 11.92 KWH Solar 15.98 KWH
    2013******
    Jan14-Feb13 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 15.77 KWH Solar 20.73 KWH
    Feb14-Mar14 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 14.49 KWH Solar 25.14 KWH
    Mar15-Apr13 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 11.27 KWH Solar 47.96 KWH
    CPT-1000 watt hybrid GTI burned up 5/5/2013 Changed out to a SunG 600 watt solar GTI
    Trees full of leaves 5/5/2013.
    Apr14-May13 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 13.98 KWH Solar 71.42 KWH
    May14-June12 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 3.75 KWH Solar 75.94 KWH
    June13-July12 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 1.86 KWH Solar 72.52 KWH
    July13-Aug11 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 1.64 KWH Solar 72.97 KWH
    Aug12-Sept11 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 1.63 KWH Solar 70.52 KWH
    09/09/2013 Wind just started to pick up for Fall.
    Sept12-Oct12 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 2.38 KWH Solar 62.29 KWH
    Nov 08,2013 Leaves are down and winds are returning.:)
    Oct13-Nov11 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 7.75 KWH Solar 37.72 KWH
    Wind has been tied to a 12 volt battery and dumped from there for the past month.
    Nov12-Dec10 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 7.97 KWH Solar 82.50 KWH
    Dec11-Jan9 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind No Report Power outage and lost count.
    2014******
    Jan10-Feb9 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 19.03 KWH Solar 44.30 KWH
    A lot of sun for this time of the year. This month it will be lower most of my panels have been snow covered all this week.
    Feb10-Mar12 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 9.27 KWH Solar 30.34 KWH
    Mar12-Apr11 WN500 Eff300 820 watts Solar Wind 13.15 KWH Solar 57.73 KWH
    Apr11-May10 DC-12A Eff300 820 Watts Solar Wind 7.60 KWH Solar 61.35 KWH
    May11-Jun10 DC-12A Eff300 820 Watts Solar Wind 4.17 KWH Solar 80.40 KWH
    House torn down to the SW will help with wind production.
    Jun10-Jul9 DC-12A Eff300 820 Watts Solar Wind 3.73 KWH Solar 72.99 KWH
    Oct 2014 Wind 4.22 KWH Solar 22.19 KWH
    Nov 2014 Wind 19.59 KWH Solar 17.13 KWH
    Dec 2014 Wind 10.13 KWH Solar 16.02 KWH
    2015****
    Jan 2015 Wind 12.03 KWH Solar 15.85 KWH
    Panels have been snow covered for most of the month. :(
    Feb 2015 Wind 6.29 KWH Solar 19.29 KWH
    Panels covered with snow for about 2 weeks and little wind this month.
    Mar 2015 Wind 5.98 KWH Solar 56.45 KWH
    Apr 2015 Freedom II with G5 Blades and Avenger with 7 KT Blades - Solar has not changed.
    Apr 2015 Wind 9.07 KWH Solar 64.04 KWH
    May 2015 Wind 4.84 KWH Solar 65.53 KWH
    June 2015 Wind 4.09 KWH Solar 68.80 KWH
    July 2015 Wind 3.92 KWH Solar 79.87 KWH
    Aug 2015 Wind 4.30 KWH Solar 80.89 KWH
    Sept 2015 Wind 4.20 KWH Solar 61.24 KWH
    Sept 29 Winds just started to come back.:) Leaves are turning and starting to fall off.
    Oct 2015 Wind 7.86 KWH Solar 51.73 KWH Freedom II 5 KT Blades Avenger 7 KT Blades
    Nov 2015 Wind 13.05 KWH Solar 44.98 KWH
    Dec 2015 Wind 13.09 KWH Solar 17.94 KWH
    Jan 2016 Wind 11.60 KWH Solar 19.28 KWH
    Last 10 Days of Jan DC-12 Partial short of rectifier and Freedom II Total short of rectifier.
    Feb 2016 Wind 13.28 KWH Solar 29.51 KWH 2 Weeks Freedom ll down for repairs.
    Mar 2016 Wind 11.50 KWH Solar 51.24 KWH
    Apr 2016 Wind 8 KWH Solar 55.75 KWH End of month leaves are still not full.
    May 2016 Wind 4 KWH Solar 76 KWH
    June 2016 Wind 5 KWH Solar 77 KWH

    I will start back up next month.
    The tree that gave me all the turbulence to the SW is gone now and I have both turbines with 7 KT blades. The vertical is charging the batteries to help take the load off the two solar panels on the porch. Lot of changes this year.

    Jan 2017 Wind 18.30 KWH Solar 15.55 KWH
    A little news for the month. Two days of 50+ gusting winds. One of those days power was out for up to six hours. I did not lose anything during that time. :)

    Feb 2017 Wind 11.91 KWH Solar 36.08 KWH
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2017
  14. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    Here is what I am going to use to change over to the 600w turbine. It came with the bolts in the picture. They only had 4 threads after the nuts on the end. I used 5/16 threaded rod and welded 1 inch long nuts on the end to make new mounting bolts. I also had to grind the high spots off about half way up the nut . So it would fit down in the holes.
    The bracket is 6in by 12in by 1/8inch bent in a 90. I will have to cut the old mounting bracket off and bolt this one in its place.
    600w_Mounting.jpg
     
  15. Minnesota

    Minnesota WindyNation Engineer

    Which one are you replacing? Looks nice.
     
  16. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    The Windy Nation 500 watt. It will be coming down for testing and inspection. The 300 watt is doing well and has seen over 400 watts at 30 mph.
    Here is a better picture of the mounting plate and bolts.
    600w_mount2.jpg
     
  17. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    Got it up today. After breaking two saw blades went with a mini grinder to remove the old mount. It is a little tight so will have to wait a few days for some wind to loosen it up.
     

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  18. Minnesota

    Minnesota WindyNation Engineer

    With those blades what rpm do you think it will hit at 25mph? WN has 60-inch on there Rover; not sure if their PMA is identical or not to the one you have.
     
  19. TomT

    TomT WindyNation Engineer

    I would have went with Windy Nation 5 blades but I am out of money. So these will have to do till I can afford them.
    As far as rpm I have no idea. I will post more info when I have wind.
    The rover PMA is a smaller unit than mine. The Effsun 300, 840 rpm,400-840 rpm,500-840 rpm and 600-560 rpm watt models are all the same except for the length of the unit.
    They are on sale at aliexpress . They give info and dimensions of the units there.
     
  20. tom- any update on your output in December? How is your turbine generation?
     

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